In this conversation, Karl Friston unpacks epistemic trust in everyday terms—how our brains decide who to learn from and what to believe amid deepfakes, polarized media, and belonging needs. We explore why “learning gates” open with felt safety and shared narratives, how attachment histories bias trust, and why body signals are critical red flags for incoherent stories. Practical takeaways: tune curiosity with care, notice interoceptive alarms, and keep firm-yet-flexible boundaries in the search for coherence.