In this conversation, Toko-pa Turner explores belonging — not as something granted from outside but as a competence we recover from within, often by way of the very exile that first wounded us. She speaks to her own early experience of being orphaned from her community, the role of dreams as guides back to wholeness, and her reservations about a culture of empowerment and optimization that can leave the soul feeling more alienated, not less. Author of Belonging: Remembering Ourselves Home, she reflects on longing as a sacred signal and on the slow work of coming home to ourselves and to the living world.